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set with Luke Ross and Brendan Condon three brothers from the Boston band meeting a few weeks ago and it quickly went off the rails in between several simultaneous conversations we talked tipping harmonies lavor Burton acoustic music playing live for guy and his dog the meaning of the word home podcasts. We were all over the place but it was certainly a hoot and we had a lot of fun these guys sound great and they are amazing live. So here is our conversation with town meeting recorded at Woods Hill table in Concord, Massachusetts.
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So hi fellas
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pretty good.
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Remind me again where you're coming from. You're coming from Malden Malden yeah you're an air air Fitchburg but where you guys originally from since you're from air you're all from air okay you know air I know where where have you been in air? I
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live in Acton I mean, I know Groton air I know the area I worked in
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our dad works in acting Oh yeah, he he's livers for Bursa.
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Oh yeah, I said pump gas there for like really four years yeah, that's the hot spot for guess I don't come up in this area a lot but there's always crazy lines every time I drive by
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so I think it's cheaper but it's also it's like cash
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Yeah, he's in there well like 30 years now
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you have to have full service so you can pump your own right?
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Yes. pay more in the winter
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well you get better tips in the winter
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oh my gosh, he supposed to tip Yes There you go.
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I've never tipa tipa gas attendant like a guy who washes who drives off my car across the street. Yeah, but never gas attendant
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I tip now only because I did it. Yeah, well I feel like I have to do every time I but I don't go full service ever. I never do right because I
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always thought because it's full they add the extra in for That's right. It's more expensive. Kind of a silly thing is only like five cents, but it's five cents a gallon. So if you have 20 gallons and it's
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like most people don't tip
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anybody Listen, this podcast started ripping the coal
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gas. All we came here to say
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yeah, that's a PSA for this.
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Yeah, I'm blessed tipper you'll ever meet. You are
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a good tipper in general in restaurants and bars and stuff. I never get I never get like that person saying, this is an awesome tip. Thank you so much for giving me this great 25% tip or something? I never got to thank you never say thank you. Well, that's true. I should get tipped for my awesome tips.
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Yeah, there should be
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a tip, tip, tip tip tip.
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This is the kind of shit we talk about.
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Do you guys play music for tips? We have to me
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Yeah, we still make money other than tips merge.
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A lot of venues being facetious Yes,
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but not a lot. Especially when you're first starting out a lot of venues will say we can't pay you but we'll feed you and we do a pass the hat and most of the places that say that they are very aggressive with their hat. Yeah. Which is great for for bands starting off so well.
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You can definitely make more money on tips usually then what the place will pay you anyways. Yeah. which is
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unfortunate reality but yeah.
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What are you gonna do? Who's the oldest lamb and and then
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rather than me then me do that.
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Yeah, you're the youngest. That's what we call it, babe.
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Yeah, well, it's not because you're so good.
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It could be you know, there's no speculation
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You're the one with the big beard and the most the pictures. Yeah, I'm a little disappointed, man. I want to see the huge beard. Really? Sorry.
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Summer almost.
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Yeah, you gotta cut it. I can't grow my beard that I grew up with long that one time ever had a really long and it gets all like curly. It starts it's
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unruly. I get itchy I get I hate it.
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Yeah, I thought it would look cool. And I didn't like oh,
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that's the perfect beard like though what you got going? Yeah,
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this is very this is this is trim very.
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You're looking good. Well, thank you very much appreciate
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your looking babe. Like
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George works. You got to be on the had
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they lost today.
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I know. I we were just watching the game across the street there.
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I really want to see you guys live. Because that's your thing. Right? That's I mean, that's what you're saying. And your website. Live is my thing. If If a band can play live, that's my measurement against other people. Because that's that's the hardest thing to do. Anyone can go in the studio and sound good. But when you can pull it off live. That's the
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Yeah, that's
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right. Yeah, I prefer playing shows to record. Absolutely. Recordings fun. But it's it's stressful. Yeah, especially, I mean, we're not a nationally successful band. So I mean, you guys aren't a band. So you probably know you have a budget. It's not this thing where you can kind of go in when you feel like you're like we
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have three or four days to get everything. I just feed off the energy of an audience. And I just get such a rush from that. I love feeling that
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there's nothing that can compare that in the room together vibe of energy that you can have a better a better night than others because of the lack of energy. But then again, I mean, some some people talk about about how its energy with within themselves within the band itself, no matter if there's no one listening like four people. Yeah,
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we've experienced that to some nights here. It's a weird gig. And you have to find a way to find that anyways, and you find it within the band.
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You almost have to kind of circle up beforehand,
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when you get on stage. It's it's a whole nother thing. You can't quantify it.
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We've all been there where you're sitting there like you know, when a Florida resorts, there's nobody there. Yeah. And his dog, you know, and so it's like, what are you going to do is
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you play for the dog? You play
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for the dog? Yeah. And I always have a good time with him when I'm playing. You know, we're just jam in the basement. I freakin love it. And then I get pleasantly surprised when we get a big crowd and they go nuts. Yeah, doesn't happen very often. But when they do, it's
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but I think it's this whole concept where I think we're talking about of you can have a huge crowd going nuts and really enjoying music, but the band may not be vibrating. The band may not be feeling it. Or you can have the opposite. We have six people in ruined maybe two guys or a guy and girl in the dog. But there's something on that night with you guys. Yeah, I kind of want to hear I want to circle back to that. Because you guys are brothers. Yes. That to me is like I'm just I was telling Chuck before he got here. I'm like, okay, it's me and my sister. We're close, we get along. But I can't imagine like singing with her being in the business with her whatever, like, full time.
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Yeah, you would have been like Donny and Marie,
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we would be like done. But you know, is there something to that?
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We've been asked that a lot in regards to like harmonies, because you find that with a lot of brother bands, where there's just some kind of unexplained thing that there's like just a chemistry that exists. Like, I don't know if it's genetics, DNA, whatever. But it helps you to blend vocally Yeah. When we're off stage. There's the brother shit. Yeah. But when we're on stage, it becomes something totally different. I think in that commodity exists. And I think Yeah, you rely on it. But I don't know if it's specific to being blood brothers.
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I think there is that there's an element to it. The best way I can put it is our highs are higher and our lows are lower. So we will get in close to fistfight sometimes, but then like what,
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like something you've done your entire life. So
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that's what I mean. Like, yeah, well, we've been fighting since we were since we were kids first.
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But then when it we hope by the end of this podcast I'm looking for
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Yeah, we were planning.
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Yeah, we're sorry. Go ahead.
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Yeah, the good times, I think are that much better, because we've been through so much together. And it's I don't like circling back to what you were originally talking about. When you have two or three people in the audience. I feel like sometimes we vibe better, better than we sometimes it's almost like a challenge. Because you know, how can we engage? How can we get these two people to bring 10 friends the next time they come like,
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yeah, like I jokingly said, play for the dog. But sometimes that's literally what it is. because like you said, I've seen musicians, I've seen other bands who you can see that that person is just going through the motions, it does nothing for me. So if I was that one person in the audience, and I just see someone going through the motions, I'm not into that,
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you know, I remember I went to go see the Eagles play, and Glenn fry was onstage, and it was like a benefit. And the audience was just kind of sitting there and Glenn fry. It was like he had never played those songs before he was jumping up and down on the stage. And you know, they've played right you know, lionize a billion times and I was so impressed with like, how he just he gave it his all
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as far as he's concerned like you know, you being as into it as you worse is the only difference that's all that matters. You know, like he was having a good time so he was Who the hell cares who else you know is into it or not? As long as you are maybe you were the dog?
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Maybe Maybe he was tripping?
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Looks like a duck.
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Yeah, dog man when he passed this the first thing I remembered was like, man he was he was so into it. Even though he spent his entire life playing the same songs over
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Yeah, when we saw him was he did he die soon after that
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couple years maybe
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Okay, it wasn't like the next day
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he died last year right well we we open Dmitri
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libretto errs Allman Brothers young guys.
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Oh, yes. was when which trucks was playing the drums and then it was like a little while after that they later Yeah, like not even a month later that is our only encounter with that was like them getting off stage after soundcheck, but they like, you know, they engaged with us. Like, you know, hats off to each and every Yeah, like I handshakes and everything it was it was awesome.
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It means a lot. Yeah, it's
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huge. It's huge, you know, for like the influences and inspirations
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musically, does it inspire you to work harder, and to be more confident in that or
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I think to be more present, because when you feel someone being present with you, and you know it, it's intoxicating, and you want to give that back. That's one of my favorite compliments more than you guys sound great. I love your harmonies. I love when people are like I love that you guys are genuine people that you're real people because you know and I get it some people have been doing this for 50 plus years and it's just a thing they do I don't know if I will ever get there and if I do I hope that I can remember this and find out way back but for me like why are we doing this it's for it's not just for ourselves, you know? Like it's also for the people it's also for everyone so when you feel that coming from the artist, you know and you and you find that place of interaction and synergy GN it makes the music that much better and and we've heard that from people who have been like, I love the music, but the fact that I feel like you guys are real dudes and present and genuine. It makes the music that much better
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sometimes when we'll do a newer song and you just get lost and you forget that anyone's even there. I know that sounds cliche and maybe even a little juicy but it's it's one of my favorite feelings in the world.
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It's actually closer
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and closer like that. I don't think it necessarily goes away with age like me and Russ. We got to go see Neil Young. I was
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literally going to bring up Neil Young when he was talking about Glenn.
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He started doing he started I think it start with after the gold rush. And then he did some
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Oregon and then he was on the acoustic but then the second he has brought out promise of the real it's like Willie Nelson son playing in his band. And he picked up that electric murdered like unbelievable, probably like 35 minute guitar solos. But you didn't even know because he was so into it.
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It could have been 22 years old. That's cool. Yeah, you know that someone's it's they got their heart part in it from Yeah, they want.
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Have you guys always played together? Like since you were kids? Or is it something that sort
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of? We used to make up songs all the time to get like, like when we were kids kids? Yeah, I didn't really learn guitar till I was 2425. And then I think Ross was maybe just 716 or 17 at the time. Babe was still little but he was fixed minute grown up his entire life.
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But so many old soul. Yeah, he's an old soul.
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babes. The oldest have been too old. So you
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you play the guitar. Yeah. And you you're on the Kahan. Kahan. And what do
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you I play the harmonica, and I'll sing and do the shakers in tambourine.
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And we all play guitar. I still I feel like I only play a little I play enough to get by
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three chords in the truth.
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Yeah, but me and Russ.
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That's a good thing. They got over
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coffee shops and stuff. We actually stopped for about a year and then we started doing stuff as town meeting on accident. Someone canceled that one of these newer coffee shops in Pittsburgh and they asked for us if you wanted to do it. And he said we should we should do this again. But then it was it was mostly Luke's writing. And now we all right,
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when did you discover that you could all sing together?
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So it started just me doing leads and Russ back me up with harmony. We all grew up singing harmony to our favorite CDs. You just you guys probably do the same you drive around and you throw the harm so we can kind of find it pretty easily. He started writing and showing me stuff that he's writing. I was like, This is better than the stuff I'm doing. Let's just do these songs and
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their elaborate harmonies because there's like multiple parts. I don't know where that comes from.
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I don't have an answer. We none of us studied. I don't feel ya.
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music theory
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for me like sounds right. I mean, yeah,
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that's however you want to take it. You feel it? We don't
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practice damn near as much as we should. But I because when I was first in the band, it was just on and off. Like whenever I was there in the audience.
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You were you were in a metal band. Is that you?
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Tim Tims mandolin player brother. Yeah, yeah, he was in a high just kind of was like on the road busking. I put the gem Bay and that but I never really consider myself a singer. And I think it was a verge we played verge somewhere and then then you guys played out again, like after I was kind of relatively consistent. And then you were like, babe, man, you got you got to be with us every time because we played Virgin and like felt hollow or something. You said something like that? I don't know. So I think to me, from what I can remember, that was one of the first things where it was like, we all need to sing together. And then if I die, I remember being like the first thing we all like, wrote together and sang together. That's like we were, I think,
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was with the song If I die. I remember being so excited. Like
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I finished the verse and everything you know, and then we'll great together. Yes,
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because I think that was probably the first one where we all collaborated.
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Come soon.
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Bad Day.
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I don't know if I've listened to Enough of your stuff to enough. There's a lot of soloing. But seems like this. This this singing throughout. It's pretty heavy lyrically. Yeah, right.
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Yeah. I think that's kind of how we Right. I mean, there's what yeah, we literally had a show the other night, like I said something about Lou being like one of my favorite writers. And Luke said something about babying one of his favorite writers. And they've said something about me being one of his writers. But like, legit, like, we all grew up with a love for writing. I think it's really cool to hear you say that, though, about what is some of your favorite writing when it's not only in your within your own band, but it's within your own family. Yeah. And that's something that's very genuine and unique. Yeah. And
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you guys talk to the brothers or the you know,
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the other brother. Yeah. Did you see that the job documentary yet?
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No, no. It came out. You gotta watch it.
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They talk about that same thing, but we're
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later so I the which
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documentary? It's called. Me last. It's about the EVA. Okay, yeah.
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Judd Apatow,
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but they talked about how the two of them, they just love the way the other one writes. And I think a lot of it for me is really just surrendering to the fact that we all are gifted and trying to like find that self love. Because it's so difficult, because you listen to people like the younger brothers, or Neil Young, or the Eagles or whatever, and all these incredible artists and you're like, man, why don't we sound like that, it becomes very difficult to find that place. And I think being in a band with your brothers and writing with your brothers, maybe there's something to that where it helps with your self confidence, because you know that that person has the same upbringing as you the same story. And also there won't
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be as much bullshit if I have an idea. And I show it to these guys. They're not going to Yes, man me to death. Do you know what I mean? They'll be like, so it's super vulnerable. So it's important to have each other's back, I think, which I think we kind of get
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grown up it's an ego thing with Lennon and McCartney were far from related. They wrote beautiful, but different songs, and they they respected each other's writing, right? But yet gotta be some jealousy and some some issues there. And you wonder if some of that is dampened by the genetic factor, right? And it the fact that you guys are like you said Blood Brothers,
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possibly. I think maybe just in the long run that I might get started jealous of verse or something that like Ross or Luke wrote, or like, maybe they they love the hell out of a song I wrote that I wrote entirely or something. And they're like, man, I really wish I wrote that one. But I think we all kind of admit, at the end of the day, like no song that any one of us wrote is better than the ones that we've all written together.
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I don't play electric very often, but when I do, it really kind of opens up different opportunities like was that
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I said, You drink your psyches?
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That's very good.
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Playing electric allows you more you can almost let the instrument do some of the work because you let the sound of the MP lead this this this more life to it. You can just let it ring born you playing acoustic it's going to be playing whatever you're doing to it. Yeah, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, it forces you to be much more like raw was right.
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And not a lot of people can sometimes get away with playing acoustic instruments. Well, I can't get away with really playing electric very well. Because,
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yeah, it will be people I think assume will be you play music, you can play electric and they're two completely different animals. I feel like you can play
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it right. But you're not going to be nearly as good as someone who's just that's all they do.
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I had one for a little while, but I was in an apartment. And I didn't have a place to play with an AMP or anything. So I end up selling it. And it's also tricky because me and babe are both lefties. So if we want to try a new instrument, we have to order it. Guitar Center. You guys have the whole wall we have like a Chevy thunder. And then I've been
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you know to that have been there all year. You know the music Emporium a couple years ago, they had a special order. It was like a $15,000 electric guitar. But for some reason they made a mistake and they made it a lefty guitar. So they were selling it for like half price because they couldn't get rid of it. I love that one of my earlier bands. I saw this drummer he had a he had a Kahan hit his own homemade cone. And I loved the way it sounded. I just liked how it was. This is what I want to do. I don't want any electric I want him to play the cone. And he was like, it's like there's no way I'm just playing the cone. I'm a drummer. I want to play the drums. I'm like, okay, fine, but he would pull out the horn once in a while too. And I disliked that organic sound of the home with a harmonica little mandolin acoustic guitar. It's I just love that sound
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cool. Well, you got to see us live man.
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Is that the only gentleman in the band?
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Yeah, Dave does shaker and tambourine but
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yeah, yeah, I think that if you have a good sound guy and a good sound system if the sound guy knows what he's doing some guys don't get the credit they deserve so they don't they can make they can make between the two of these guys they can make them sound like a like a full of people are like what where the fuck was that
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sound coming from? But I've had people ask me if I have magnets in my gloves because you know how serious like people have been like, Matt
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easier and a lot of people don't know what
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that's drawn a lot of people and
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maybe we should describe it because there's somebody listening right now that doesn't know what the hell components the box right? Yeah,
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it's like a I think it's Peruvian originally
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go home means balls, I think right? Yeah. Doesn't it? I'm pretty sitting. Right?
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Yeah. So it's
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To be honest, I think it means box.
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Same thing.
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I would guess.
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It's just another
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while you're sitting on your ball,
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ball for Michelle.
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Sorry, Michelle.
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Shell is getting credited.
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But it has it has a spring inside right doesn't have it has a it has
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a snare. Yeah, it's
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like a regular drum snare that you put that on the inside against the front. It is a box. It's physically a box and
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little balls inside it. It's got a boss. guys are
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playing a giant stroke. That's like one of those exercise balls. You can like bounce around
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on it to like,
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turn, turn quickly.
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It was so deep and like
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I have I like to play it. But it's harder than it looks. It's not easy to play.
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This one
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is actually tape his hands and wear gloves because
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you have to smack the shit. And yeah, and even with that if we if we have three or four shows in a row. He'll he'll show us his hands at the end of the day. And they're like,
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Oh, yeah, but
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I have a bruise right now from those
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magnets must make
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by people who can drum and sing at the same time. I don't know how he does that. I think also the energy of you guys are forced to have a high energy without high level amplification. Right? Some people can have like a rock and Marshall amp and they can be like a sick, Neil Peart drum set and stuff. And they could sound really loud and impressive, but they may not have like the vibe and know that you're connecting with the audience. It's kind of a similar analogy we were talking about about how many people were in the room. Yeah, we saw honeysuckle you guys seen honey? Yeah, they just reminded me of that we had a great energy and if many of those songs and it's just three of them. That's all you're saying? Some bit. I was just gonna
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call you pretty much agree with you on that. You're so right. Like the audience and the people in the crowd or five of that room play that.
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I am just a bird.
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I want to sing a song that someone out there
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once upon a time is always on my mind.
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Once upon a time is always on.
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When MTV came out with all those unplugged I was Yeah,
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right. Yeah.
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I don't know what it is about just acoustic music. Right? It seems to grab your attention more you listen, you listen harder. I really think there is something about acoustic that forces people to listen and
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to each other while they're playing. Right.
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Yeah. Not only with the audience, but between you had to listen to each other. Yeah, right. And I and again, I just don't think you can't fake acoustic play because it's just so organic. My
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favorite performance that like you can witness on film is Richie Havens, opening Woodstock. 60 freedom on that on that acoustic guitar just owning the shit out of it.
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And he made that up on the spot to
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do you really think so?
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Chuck made that up. I met that up in the sky. One of my favorite was Counting Crows. That double CD. That's when they do like rain King and half speed. It was really interesting how they did it on that. Well, they're touring this summer. We know them. Like I have Adams number in
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my phone.
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Oh, really? It's called. It's called.
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I do a thing called the outlaw road show. Yeah. Every year. It's our buddy Ryan Spalding who has a like a music blog. Yep. He puts on this blog called it's called Ryan smashing life. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he does a thing with Adam called the outlaw roadshow. It's like a mini festival. Free Music thing three music York in Nashville when we do the New York when we go and Adam like opens up his apartment to find all the musicians and we're literally like,
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I've got video of like,
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being in his bathroom. And he's just got his records like gold records like lining the walls of his bathroom. And like his reminder is MTV these award is sitting on top of his microwave.
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He's a great guy, and he's very creative. He loves Jazz Fest in New Orleans. And I was telling Chuck this I in 1994, I went to Jazz Fest. It was galactic when they first started. Maybe the meters are playing. I don't know. But he was right next to me. And I'm like, Who is this guy? dreads are coming down like no, this is. And it was Adam directs. He's just like kind of grooving right next to me.
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That's awesome. That was a weird man. He watched our whole set and was super sweet. kind like, but you
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know, speaking of meeting of seeing people like being next to somebody, I saw you Taylor guitar, right? Yes. So your tailor player plays out to so I was in DC this past week? Yeah. And I walked in for breakfast in the hotel, the hotel. restaurant. Yeah. And I see this guy sitting there. I'm like, I know that guy. And like, He kind of looks like everybody. Yeah, he's like, he's not very, he just said he's a normal looking guy. And I didn't like oh, maybe I'm just mistaken for somebody else. Yeah. And then I heard him talking. It was Bob Taylor.
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Really? Yeah. But it was right there. I didn't say he
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doesn't get a lot of that. Probably like, Oh my god, are you bumped it? I would have no, no.
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I mean, he might. He might. I don't know what if he's Nashville, I'm sure.
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I bet you it's the kind of thing where he doesn't get attention a lot. But when he does the people who know him really know him. Yeah.
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Do you know stock? I'm like, man,
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I love Taylor guitars, man.
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I got two of them. Yeah, yeah. Nice. I thought briefly about speaking to them about they changed the latches on the guitar cases. And they're really cheap. They used to be my be nice heavy lashes. And they change the latches and make mines continents company bending. And so
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are you guys playing next?
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What's great is we can edit you have editing power, right? You can just edit everything they're saying out we can just have a table. That's right podcasts.
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That's right, you guys having a different conversation.
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started talking about like the freakin straps or whatever you
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want to talk about screw them. Balls. Really what we
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were thinking of like, kind of running into famous musicians. We played at Waterville Valley a little while ago and Chad Stokes was there skiing with us was fam the guys just bad guy from despite Yeah, I
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hung out with
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the nicest guy in the world.
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He's actually covered in Corazon.
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He wasn't Oh, really? He was?
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Because he wasn't actually talking. covers your song. That's, that's great. Yeah,
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just like me, I love this. But I've always loved it. Yeah, I don't know if they covered it. Or if they just played it.
Unknown Speaker 29:26
No, they, he covered it. But I'm on the cover our song playing with people and sharing stages. I mean, some as you know, some of the really big acts in the last, you know, 1020 years come from touring and being the support band. Do you guys plan to do touring? And we would love to and I mean, that's part of we were talking about the Patreon earlier. I know you guys have a Patreon to those. Those things help so much in just like, day to day costs. Yeah,
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just at least covering your gas. So
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you don't make any money being a musician until you like hit some level that I don't know what that level is. You really make enough to kind of barely get by. Well, let's give a shout out to Patreon.
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Yeah, forward slash town meeting. And meeting. Yeah,
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you guys have a podcast too.
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Yeah, it's only on Patreon. Yeah,
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it's only on Patreon. Yeah, what do you guys talk about it?
Unknown Speaker 30:16
To be honest, you know, podcasting is fascinating to me. Anyway, the whole concept. I'm a huge podcast fan. Yeah. But we talked about this on our on our podcast. It's just eavesdropping, because it's people aren't doing we're just having a conversation. You just eat people eavesdropping on it. So we talk about
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really personal stuff.
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is personal stuff sometimes really stupid. She
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rashes, rashes?
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No, but we have fun doing it. It's just we don't have to have structure
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of it. Is that
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you just having conversations with your brothers, right? Yeah, it's a little time capsule of a time in your life, which I think is really great. We want to we want to do something with our daughters. At the very least even if we don't publish it literally be a conversation that I had with my 13 year old daughter. That's so
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synchronicity, those two things not only highlighted what we talked about on a previous podcast, but also highlighted a nother podcast, Leah separately called arguments with my preteen daughter.
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She's a teenager, teenager. So
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that's a great idea. It was just like, once a month.
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Just for fun.
Unknown Speaker 31:19
I think the idea of a podcast within the band is is therapeutic almost too. Yeah. You know, whether you publish them or not. It Like you said, it's a time capsule. It's an opportunity for you guys to just take a breath and say, all right, what's going on in our lives? And especially as you guys get more known? Yeah, I mean, that's going to be cool for fans. You
Unknown Speaker 31:37
know, I also wanted to bring up your debut EP geography part one, is it going to be a part two? Or is that just kind of like an idea
Unknown Speaker 31:43
at the time part two, we just did a pledge music campaign. And part two, we decided to give that to actually people on Patreon and anyone who pledged because we have a new album coming out on June 1. Okay, we're going to save like the actual release of Part Two till I think the fall it another up. Yeah, it's already done. It's already recorded. Okay.
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But we were just trying to focus on the album.
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Yeah, we the link that's coming out with the new album,
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from the green from the green from the green as a full length album.
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Yeah. I'm excited about it. That's cool. June 1, June 1 up on vinyl.
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Sweet. Yes. Excellent. Well done. Yeah. Yes. What is going
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to be green vinyl? Who's doing it? Who's doing the vinyl? Green? We're going with pirates press for this one. We almost did Burlington Record Plant but we had a connection. But Burlington Record
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Plant doesn't. Awesome. We've talked to Justin.
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Oh, really? Yeah, he was awesome.
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Yeah. Did you like it's cool little like Reading Rainbow style, like go behind the scenes and we're able to get like
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a tour and talk about all the machines and how we found them. And that's awesome. A new one. It is
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great. We go with the two guys Reading Rainbow. Hey, hey. Oh, sorry. What are you saying?
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You don't know shut? Oh,
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let's take talking. It's in a book. The Reading Rainbow. CQ. Do
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you don't know that? I don't know. What is this a generation thing?
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Wait, what are you guys talking about Reading Rainbow?
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rainbows. We're too old for that. Yeah,
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I guess it was 90s.
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Yeah, yeah. How did you get there? We were talking about vinyl. How did you get to reading rain? He
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brought up Reading Rainbow that? Wow. Oh, like Reading Rainbow style? Yes. I went to Burlington Record Plant. And we went in behind the scenes and this is some show that does that. Who was the host? What's his name? A lot.
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Yeah, he would go to places
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where they may
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What? Do you know who he is?
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He's the guy. He's the guy with the the Oh, yeah.
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That didn't make sense to anyone listening.
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I pointed at my eyes and I made like guy was like, Yeah, he's bald and black.
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Yes. Yes. He's bald and black. And he has the
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ball. He wasn't ball back then.
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I think he's was bald.
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Anyway. So that's exciting. You're doing violence is your first record coming on vinyl?
Unknown Speaker 33:54
Yeah. And we were we were actually going to do Burlington but we have some kind of connection.
Unknown Speaker 33:58
That's fine. Yeah. Have you you guys just played in Burlington, right? We don't Yeah, we play
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little radio been no night club.
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Like club lamb. Shall we have played radio been? Oh, there's a bar. Yeah, he's got here. Yeah.
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What about reading Rambo? Does he have it in there?
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So are you going great, isn't it? Yeah,
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yeah. I love that city. Chuck, I'm relating so hard to the faces you're making because I usually say where you are. Yeah. And keeping these two idiots on track. Excuse me. I'm sorry three idiots
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for clarifying that three of us.
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Because they don't understand. When we're done here. We got ours have
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no idea.
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I gotta edit this.
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budget. dummies. Oh, you know what?
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It's a fucking conversation though. We're it's like we're
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gonna keep I'm gonna keep most of this. I will
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know he's gonna keep all of it because he's not going to play spend the time to edit it. He's gonna do it out of spite. Done.
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Wanna go off the rails? I'll just keep it up my nose to spite My face is that? I don't know what that means. But yes, he doesn't know.
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It's a classic.
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Classic so far. So
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you're gonna you're going to talk the album? Hopefully?
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Yeah, we were one of the last goes to
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do everything ourselves. So we don't we don't we're not signing with booking we're not we don't have a manager. You guys. You
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guys. Just us. So will you do a good job so far? And I think if you build that fan base, organically then when the right. right time comes right time comes?
Unknown Speaker 35:39
Yeah. Like that's kind of how it has to happen.
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But you still should call out directs and say, Can we tour with you guys?
Unknown Speaker 35:45
We're actually touring with Lamar Burton. Oh, sweet.
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That would be the real tour.
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And the only audience member is his dog.
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And we brought a Pulitzer.
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Is there a big release party or another?
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Yeah, in Maine, in Portland, Maine at Empire. We're also doing one here, actually kind of local to us at the bull run. And surely
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I've never been to Bull Run. This is a great, great, great excuse me to do it. town meeting June 2. And then you got June 1 as you're dropping a big full length album.
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Yep. And then June, June 9 up in Portland at Empire. Yeah.
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You said Burlington is awesome. We really love Portland,
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man. Oh, yeah. It's so many so many great places to play now. And you know, you know, be awesome to his Thompson's point someday. Yeah. If you guys do a double bill with somebody guess
Unknown Speaker 36:32
that's where Guster played. He played with the main youth rock orchestra. Yeah, for that. I know. We know. Kevin is on our album. Notes. Kevin Owens. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 36:40
I know. Kevin. Yeah. We've had we've had we've played with great with cellist dude. Yeah, he's
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on the new record is
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played live with the orchestra.
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He's got a great thing going with the main with my row. Yeah. ballroom thieves with that whole like documentary down.
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Yeah. Make sure I'm not in the picture. Okay. He doesn't know.
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Are you saying that to send this to Kevin sending it to him? He doesn't know you because
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you never put him in. I know. You never
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know who I am. If you're not in the picture for Chuck.
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Connected though, on the soundtrack, right Kevin and I wrote the music to Acadia National Park.
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Chuck played on that kusa guitar. The Halo Yeah, that's recorded.
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That we love those guys. who's who's the drummer. That's owns it. Derek. Great drummer. Yeah, he's a great place and he's they got on tap. Upstairs. He got brothers on tap upstairs.
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We drain. We recorded if I definitely
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that, that's got to be dangerous. Having a keg at your disposal in a in a recording studio. It
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was for us.
Unknown Speaker 37:57
Well, guys, thanks for coming out. Yeah. Appreciate it. We're going to probably hit over the 99 for beer if you guys want to join us now
Unknown Speaker 38:03
go back to the 99 you were just there but Yeah, awesome podcast with you guys. Yeah, ravenous. And I don't know. I've never heard that as a verb and I love it. What podcasting?
Unknown Speaker 38:13
Is podcasting as a verb?
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Yeah, but he never heard like, podcast podcasting together.
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podcaster podcaster you have just podcast it
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so I actually did. I hope you don't mind me saying is I enjoy you guys's podcast a lot. Oh, thank you The Julie rose.
Unknown Speaker 38:32
I don't know people some people don't like it. Yeah, he's gonna delete the Julie rose. One was excellent. Ryan, mon blue one you guys did a few weeks ago with really good actually made me pick up my guitar and start writing some music. That's probably the best one.
Unknown Speaker 38:43
I wasn't in there. I wasn't in that you weren't in there. No,
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no, sir.
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Comes in once in a while. That's why I liked it a lot.
Unknown Speaker 38:52
But can I ask you? Do you guys listen to podcasts?
Unknown Speaker 38:54
Yeah, listen to mark Marin. Okay, WTF
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favorites. Pete Holmes?
Unknown Speaker 38:59
Weird. I don't listen as much as I used to this because I mean, we put out one or one a week. Yeah. So it's just like I just last thing I want to hear in my head is a podcast sometimes. So.
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I love I love Mark Marin is my podcast.
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Yeah. He's great. So you know what I like is a new one. The armchair expert. And it's with a guy named DAX shepherd. Shepherd. A it was on he's an actor on Parenthood. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's really it's really funny. And they have great guests. Yeah, I saw that one. I gotta check that one. Yeah, yeah,
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there's another one called Rhonda Deke.
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DY. It's spelled DYC
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we always come up with ideas for podcasts. Alright guys.
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Yeah, thank you for having us. If I die tomorrow, my body and
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put that bone in
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my body flu
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then you can bury me then. But don't you dig that grave too shallow. Any better use you put my
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the angels calm down. You hear the trumpet sound? Forget about the open great. deep under the
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face to
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listen for muscle. Leave my body is my spirit go? Yeah.
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Can't Take this.
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said
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man.
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I'm not gonna miss you, baby.
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Okay, well, that was certainly a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to catching them play live in June. See where and when they are playing and also buy their music at town meeting music. com You can also support them at patreon. com forward slash town meeting go to above the basement calm where you can also join us on Patreon. Sign up for our newsletter list and subscribe to our podcast like our Facebook page. Follow us on Twitter and look at all the nice pictures we post on Instagram. We are everywhere. On behalf of Ronnie and myself. Thanks for listening. Tell your friends and remember Boston music like its history is unique.
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